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Ben Shelley
Los Angeles Kings
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Dec 29 @ 7:03 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Analyzing the Andreas Athanasiou signing
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Dec 29 @ 7:13 PM ET
Good to see AA with the Kings. If he puts his ego aside I envision a 1/2 pt per game pace which will go far towards a better contract. You are gonna love this guy when he breaks into the clear!
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Dec 29 @ 7:33 PM ET
Agree with HH; When Doubles is hot, he's smoking. This kid has speed....good Lord, this kid can skate. He is a defensive liability, and had some ego issues. Genuinely hope he thrives in LA, good luck!! Between Frk's BOOMING slapper & Double A's speed, LA has some talented youngster!!
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Dec 29 @ 7:45 PM ET
I don't think the Kings will break up the Kempe-Vilardi-Frk line, so "second line" and "third line" comes down to ice time. The other line will be made up of three of Grundstrom, Athanasiou, Amadio, and Carter. Number the lines as you will.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Dec 29 @ 10:09 PM ET
It's not no risk. The risk is that he chips in some points but continues to be a defensive liability, and thus a net negative influence. There's your risk. A guy who scores 20 but is scored on 40 times.
KingsFan67
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Orange County, CA
Joined: 03.31.2011

Dec 30 @ 1:19 AM ET
Lets put Austin Wagner and AA on a line together and see who can catch them. Just for fun put Byfield in the middle.
LAkings96
Los Angeles Kings
Location: La Verne, CA
Joined: 12.15.2012

Dec 30 @ 1:26 AM ET
Lets put Austin Wagner and AA on a line together and see who can catch them. Just for fun put Byfield in the middle.
- KingsFan67


Have them as the 4th line wingers with Lizzotte. That would be a fast fun energy line.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Dec 30 @ 1:46 AM ET
It's not no risk. The risk is that he chips in some points but continues to be a defensive liability, and thus a net negative influence. There's your risk. A guy who scores 20 but is scored on 40 times.
- Kooleus


...and thus guarantees a high draft pick again. The no-risk part is that they gave up nothing to get him. Either way, the Kings win.

My concern is actually the opposite. That players like AA come in and play remarkably well, catapulting the Kings up the standings. If the veterans continue to be bad or even mediocre, they still won't make the playoffs, and that could result in a ~15th overall pick.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Dec 30 @ 2:13 AM ET
...and thus guarantees a high draft pick again. The no-risk part is that they gave up nothing to get him. Either way, the Kings win.

My concern is actually the opposite. That players like AA come in and play remarkably well, catapulting the Kings up the standings. If the veterans continue to be bad or even mediocre, they still won't make the playoffs, and that could result in a ~15th overall pick.

- tkecanuck341


So if he stinks and is -46 again, then you're happy, because you didn't give up any assets, and you get better lottery odds.

And if he scores 40 goals, then you're happy, because you didn't give up any assets, and you can go back to this article and say, "see I told you this was a no-risk signing".

Either way you're right. Awesome.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Dec 30 @ 2:18 AM ET
So if he stinks and is -46 again, then you're happy, because you didn't give up any assets, and you get better lottery odds.

And if he scores 40 goals, then you're happy, because you didn't give up any assets, and you can go back to this article and say, "see I told you this was a no-risk signing".

Either way you're right. Awesome.

- Kooleus


That's pretty much the definition of no-risk.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Dec 30 @ 8:06 AM ET
Ben Shelley: Analyzing the Andreas Athanasiou signing
- Ben-Shelley.

perhaps a steal, I liked his game, one bad year of injury seems to have derailed him ...
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Dec 30 @ 10:17 AM ET

AA received big money this season for being a North - South skater. Yes speed kills but he needs to use it while playing with others. Let’s see what kind of production AA has this season? He had an opportunity to play with McDavid, how’d that go?
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Dec 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
AA is not a player suitable for NHL play, especially a rebuilding team. He has proven to be completely un-coachable while setting a poor example for a youthful nucleus. Furthermore, as it is unlikely he will have any value at the trade deadline, this deal is quite mystifying.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Dec 30 @ 12:53 PM ET
AA received big money this season for being a North - South skater. Yes speed kills but he needs to use it while playing with others. Let’s see what kind of production AA has this season? He had an opportunity to play with McDavid, how’d that go?
- Tee56



AA is not a player suitable for NHL play, especially a rebuilding team. He has proven to be completely un-coachable while setting a poor example for a youthful nucleus. Furthermore, as it is unlikely he will have any value at the trade deadline, this deal is quite mystifying.
- Jackie Datona


All valid concerns out-of-context, but inapplicable to the Kings who don't have a youthful nucleus that will see significant ice time this year nor are they looking to AA to elevate the club into contention with a 200' game he doesn't possess. He's not on significant money, and if he performs, AA will get flipped at the deadline. Simple.
Osprey
Joined: 11.10.2015

Dec 30 @ 3:21 PM ET
He should be on the 2nd line, but he probably will be on the third line because McLellan seems to like Kempe too much.